Thank you ADCMS: And how can they call that 'Truth' when it flip-flops like a fish out of water?
Newly Enlightened
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Does 'TRUTH' change? Came across this gem....
by Newly Enlightened inwhen i was looking for a quote for data-dog's topic.... wt 1966 10/1 pg 607-608. .
questionsfromreaders?.
at times there are changes in viewpoint on biblical subjects discussed in the watch tower societys publications.
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Does 'TRUTH' change? Came across this gem....
by Newly Enlightened inwhen i was looking for a quote for data-dog's topic.... wt 1966 10/1 pg 607-608. .
questionsfromreaders?.
at times there are changes in viewpoint on biblical subjects discussed in the watch tower societys publications.
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When I was looking for a quote for Data-dog's topic.... WT 1966 10/1 pg 607-608
Questions FromReaders ?
At times there are changes in viewpoint on Biblical subjects discussed in the Watch Tower Society’s publications. We speak of what we believe as “the truth.” But does“truth”change?—W.P.,U.S.A.
Really it is the Bible that speaks of beliefs that are in harmony with the Scriptures as “the truth.” At 2 Peter 2:2 the worship based on such beliefs is termed “the way of the truth.” Yet concerning that “way of the truth” we read at Proverbs 4:18: “The path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established.” So we do not know all there is to know. In fact, even when the post-Armageddon system of things is ushered in we will not know everything. Throughout all eternity there will always be more to learn. This is indicated by what the apostle Paul wrote in Romans 11:33: “O the depth of God’s riches and wisdom and knowledge! How unsearchable his judgments are and past tracing out his ways are!”
It is to be expected, then, that at times there may be changes in viewpoint. Our basic belief may be sound Scriptural truth, but there may be some details that we did not fully understand in the past. In time, with the aid of Jehovah’s spirit, we get those matters cleared up.
For example, a few years ago we had a fine series of articles in TheWatchtower on the “superior authorities.” (Issues of November 1–December 1, 1962) Before those articles were published, we knew and taught that Jehovah is the Most High, and that Jesus Christ is the second to Him in power and authority. We knew that we should be law-abiding persons, but that, when there was a conflict between man’s law and that of God, we would obey God as ruler rather than men. Those basic truths are the same today as they were before; they have not changed. However, by careful scrutiny of the Scriptures we have come to appreciate that certain Bible texts ought to be applied in a different way. For example, we realized that the “superior authorities” mentioned in Romans 13:1 are, not Jehovah God and Jesus Christ, but the political rulers. That is also true of Titus 3:1 and 1 Peter 2:13, 14. Yet the basic truth is unchanged. Our viewpoint toward God and toward the State is the same as before.
Similarly with our study of the resurrection. We believed in the resurrection of the dead before our recent series of Watchtower articles (issues of January 15–March 15, 1965) on the subject and we believe in it now. We also believed that 144,000 would be raised to heavenly life with Christ. We believed that many more would be resurrected as humans; that some of them would be persons who had faithfully served God in the past, and that others would be those who had lived ‘unrighteously.’ We also believed that a great educational work would take place when they would be raised. Those truths have not changed. But now we see that, according to the Scriptures, more are to return than we expected. So, rather than setting aside the truth of the resurrection, it has been magnified, and our appreciation of Jehovah’s love and mercy in providing for the resurrection has been enhanced.
This is in direct contrast to what occurred among certain men of whom the apostle Paul wrote to Timothy, as recorded at 2 Timothy 2:18: “These very men have deviated from the truth, saying that the resurrection has already occurred; and they are subverting the faith of some.” Those men no longer had any hope in the resurrection; they believed that what was in the past was all there was to it. But they were setting aside the truth that Jesus had taught. Likewise in Christendom there have been changes in viewpoint; but they are rejecting the Bible as myth and setting aside its moral code as out-of-date.
What a tremendous difference between what is taking place among them and what Jehovah is doing for his people in order to bring our thinking even more closely in line with his inspired Word of truth!
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HI! im new here...
by outofthelionsden ini have been reading post on this forum for many months and i wanted to thank you all for all the great posts and comments that have really helped me get through this hard year of fading.
my husband and i where born in jdubs and almost 1 year ago we started to fade , now that we think about it has been a few years that we were suffering from cognitive dissonance without knowing it.
we feel that finally we have our life back , a life that is just starting.
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Newly Enlightened
Welcome outofthelionsden glad to have you here with us. It is very rough losing your family members who are still in. We're going thru the same thing ourselves right now. My mom & siblings haven't talked to me since Dec and is shunning us. My husband's mother, ran to the elders hollering 'apostates' because hubby dared to show his non-jw brother some pictures hidden within the WT literature.
But breathe, relax. It does get easier. The niggling doubts that you are doing the right thing are natural and it's a side effect of the mind-control they have put us thru all these years.
Peace to you and your family
NE [Hubby is Brother of the Hawk & daughter is Gojira]
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NEW video on Youtube MUST SEE! the elder's meeting is ridiculous!
by Newly Enlightened inbrother of the hawk, newly enlightened & gojira, recorded an elder's meeting on 5/7/03.
both does a great job of defending me and making the elders look foolish!.
thank you raypublisher/jj and jwstruggle for the awesome job you did on it.. follow up story was not recorded but we will post it here hopefully over the weekend.. enjoy, it's pretty hilarious how they try to control us and come after me on a work of fiction!.
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What the hell? I shouldn't be saying all these damn swear words! What would they have done if I would have used the 'F' word?
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Ok, Theosophy, the Illuminati, philosophy, esotericism. Freemasons.
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I've never heard of Theosophy, so will have to do some research on that one. The Kabbala, I just seen something on that one in a Freemason documentary we were watching over the weekend. If I remember right, it was the 'tree of life'???? With 10 different branches. I will go look it up though.
Jehovah, even the JW literature admits that it's an invented name. They just use it because it's the more 'popular' pronunciation. Popular? In Satan's system? The world has decided this?
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NEW video on Youtube MUST SEE! the elder's meeting is ridiculous!
by Newly Enlightened inbrother of the hawk, newly enlightened & gojira, recorded an elder's meeting on 5/7/03.
both does a great job of defending me and making the elders look foolish!.
thank you raypublisher/jj and jwstruggle for the awesome job you did on it.. follow up story was not recorded but we will post it here hopefully over the weekend.. enjoy, it's pretty hilarious how they try to control us and come after me on a work of fiction!.
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Yes, we are working on it. Hopefully we'll get it done and posted by this Sunday.
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Please Help! Wife want PROOF of Watchtower Deception
by Indian Larry inplease post any examples of clear cut watchtower deception.
my wife does not believe that the watchtower would purposely decieve her.
i need clearcut examples of deception of by the wtbts.
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One of my favorites: Show her this one first : WT 1972 1/1 Questions From Readers: pg 32
Sorry I'm having browser issues again.
But the above questions from readers says that Homosexual acts and beastiality ARE NOT grounds for a scriptural divorce, then in
WT 1972 12/15 pg 766-768 Questions from readers they change it back just a mere 11 months later.
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Quick update on sharing TTATT with my friend
by Gojira_101 inyesterday morning i got a message from my friend, the one i shared ttatt with last week and she wanted to meet for coffee.
this is the story/friend i'm referring to http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/251494/1/ha-take-that-watchtower-one-less-borg-for-you.. i was really nervous because since our initial visit she had told me that two of her other jw friends wanted to talk to me.
after a little more prodding she admitted that her friends didn't accept what their own wt said about god's name and they wanted to talk to me to "bring me back to the truth.".
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Good job Sweetie! Proud of you!
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NEW video on Youtube MUST SEE! the elder's meeting is ridiculous!
by Newly Enlightened inbrother of the hawk, newly enlightened & gojira, recorded an elder's meeting on 5/7/03.
both does a great job of defending me and making the elders look foolish!.
thank you raypublisher/jj and jwstruggle for the awesome job you did on it.. follow up story was not recorded but we will post it here hopefully over the weekend.. enjoy, it's pretty hilarious how they try to control us and come after me on a work of fiction!.
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If I remember correctly, it was given to him at an insurance seminar. I have no idea why they would be handing out Viagra ties to ins. people. Then why would a P.O/COBE wear it is another big question.
He would also tell Viagra jokes!